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None of us is safe from police raids
News Type: Opinion — Seeded on Tue Sep 2, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
Article Source: The Baltimore Sunadvertisement
Imagine you're Cheye Calvo, the white mayor of Berwyn Heights, an affluent part of Prince George's County. Coming home one night in late July, you find on your front porch a large package that, unbeknownst to you, happens to contain a lot of marijuana. As it turns out, your spouse is the victim of a drug-smuggling scheme that targets innocent customers in the UPS system. You bring the box inside; moments later, the SWAT officers standing by break in and shoot your two beautiful Labradors. As the dogs lie there bleeding to death, you're held in the same room, handcuffed for hours. Nearly a month later, you have yet to receive an apology.
Because of who he is, the nation knows what happened to Mr. Calvo a few weeks ago. Here's what most Americans don't know: There are perhaps 40,000 such raids each year, according to a Cato Institute report, "Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America."
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{"commentId":2692572,"authorDomain":"iarnuocon"}
I've been writing on and off about the dangers of no-knock raids for about 15 years. It simply amazes me the number of innocent lives that have been lost as a result of police incompetence or perfidy, with little to no conerted outcry on the part of the public, and few if any punishments meted out to the wrongdoers.
A helluva lot more "officers" need to be prosecuted under section 242 of USC Title 18. Maybe then they'd take a moment to make sure they've got the right address.
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- 13 votes
#1 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 9:38 AM EDT{"commentId":2697057,"authorDomain":"jdl-28"}
I agree with you and can not understand how they are still allow to have the raids, I believe they have watch to much TV and think they should operated the same way.
It is incompetent on the part of the police force, which is causing people to get hurt, kill and even people pets for no reason. In my state they raided a home kill both pets who was running from them and made the family laid on the floor with their dead pets, both kids should of never has to do that period. The problem was it was the wrong home, and they never even said they was sorry. But the police said we are just doing our jobs, which I do not understand if you are in the wrong home.
The raids should be stop,If they want someone pick them up outside there homes no need to break a door down as if we are living in a police state.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":2693115,"authorDomain":"Constitutionalpatriot"}
Absolutely despicable actions by these "officers of the law". A simple "Google" search by address will usually tell who lives at that address. Lazy, ill-informed, and incompetent are adjectives that come to mind, but then, so do overly-aggressive, blind, and unquestioning.
Maybe it's time to start testing these "officers" for steroid use, or other "performance enhancing" substances. It appears that "short fuses" and immediate rage are de rigeur for the law enforcement community.
I hope they get everything in the book thrown at them, that they're found guilty, and spend a great deal of time in a cell with a roommate named "Big Daddy"........
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- 6 votes
#2 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 10:19 AM EDT{"commentId":2693850,"authorDomain":"davids-light"}
The Police, The Prosecutors and Judges all need to be held accountable.
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- 9 votes
#3 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 11:04 AM EDT{"commentId":2694219,"authorDomain":"zdrakes"}
It is nauseating to see these police practices directly responsible for so much destruction, fear, humiliation and loss of human life. Our prisons are overflowing. Our Justice system is overloaded. The way to stop this is to reduce funding to the irresponsible agencies. These practices degrade law enforcement. If there is an "accidental death" on these raids the penalty should be at least manslaughter if not murder and the responsibility should go to the very top.
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- 6 votes
#4 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 11:18 AM EDT{"commentId":2700245,"authorDomain":"babin"}
None of us is safe from police raids
None of us ARE safe? Check my grammar here...
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- 1 vote
#5 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:14 PM EDT{"commentId":2700824,"authorDomain":"iarnuocon"}
Yeah, I just went with the original title, but good call.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2700889,"authorDomain":"Constitutionalpatriot"}
"None" is a contraction of two words, 'Not one". One, being singular, requires a singular form of the verb being used. Therefore, the correct form of the verb being used is "is". By expanding the contracted word, you can read what it would be like without the contraction.
In this case, it would be "Not one of us is safe.....".
BTW, this can be used for all contractions of this sort when looking for the correct form of the verb to use.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2701386,"authorDomain":"xcomunic8ed"}
LOL
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{"commentId":2701526,"authorDomain":"iarnuocon"}
"None" is a contraction of two words, 'Not one". One, being singular, requires a singular form of the verb being used. Therefore, the correct form of the verb being used is "is". By expanding the contracted word, you can read what it would be like without the contraction.
See the link in #7.1--
The rule for how to use none in a sentence is an example of a rule that changed.
I remember being taught that none means "not one" and should be matched up with a singular verb, like this:
*None of the many pens I own works when I need to take notes on a phone call.*
The theory was that "none works" should be read the same as "not one works." But when people use the word none in everyday speech and writing, they often match the verb to a plural word that follows the word none, like this:
None of the pens are working.
The people who write grammar books finally decided to go with the flow and change the rule to match the way actual writers and speakers of English use the word. The big change occurred, as best I can remember, around 1983. New grammar books published about that time started listing none as a word that can be plural or singular in a sentence, depending on the word it refers to.
The way to correctly use none in a sentence today is to determine what word it is referring to, determine whether that word is plural or singular, and then make the verb plural or singular to match, like this:
None of the apples are ripe.
None of this apple is edible.
In the first sentence, none refers to apples, which is plural, so you use the plural verb are. In the second sentence, none refers to apple, which is singular, so you use the singular verb is.
See also the American Heritage Book of English Usage:
People opposing the plural use base their argument on the fact that none comes from the Old English word an, meaning "one." But the citational evidence against restricting none is overwhelming. None has been used as both a singular and plural pronoun since the ninth century.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2701703,"authorDomain":"Constitutionalpatriot"}
Shows my age, I guess........Hahahahahaha!!!!
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{"commentId":2702233,"authorDomain":"babin"}
I prithee thee. Doth thou agree?
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{"commentId":2700423,"authorDomain":"MRZK"}
C'mon, all police are heroes and should not be questioned in any way. Everyone is guilty of something.
Aren't they?
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#6 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:22 PM EDT{"commentId":2700980,"authorDomain":"Constitutionalpatriot"}
Does your statement include the police "heroes"?????
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{"commentId":2701578,"authorDomain":"lc3"}
It seems we're guilty of not being them. That's how it seems to work in that world.
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{"commentId":2700619,"authorDomain":"tlharmon123"}
None of us is safe from police raids
None of us ARE safe? Check my grammar here...
None of us is safe would be the correct form. The word "is" is referring to the word "none", not the word "us".
One of the main reasons the people who started this country revolted was because of exactly this sort of thing. The "war on drugs" has blinded a lot of people to the rape of our constitution. People who are accused of selling drugs have their belongings confiscated before they are even arraigned on any charges. Even if they are found innocent, they often have to sue to get back some of their things.
This is completely wrong and unconstitutional. Now they've expanded this sort of thing because of the "war on terror". I wouldn't be surprised to find that some of us here on Newsvine are being surveilled.
We'd better figure out something to do about this pretty quick, it's not going to get better by itself.
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- 2 votes
#7 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 3:30 PM EDT{"commentId":2700930,"authorDomain":"iarnuocon"}
Just to make you crankier, the correct usage is "are". None refers to "us," and the condition "safe" is also referring to "us"-- None of us are safe.
Of course, prior to the 80s, when usage mavens suddenly decided that "none" could be either singular or plural depending upon the case, you would have been correct, oldcrankyman. ;-)
{"commentId":2700930,"threadId":"345991","contentId":"1815451","authorDomain":"iarnuocon"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":2701625,"authorDomain":"dlovvo"}
What would happen IF the police kicked in a door and was met by a 12 g 00buck shot?? Bet the civilian would go to jail!
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2703230,"authorDomain":"iarnuocon"}
Yep. And be labeled a threat to society, held without bail, and his supporters intimidated by police officers unhappy that their thuggery didn't go off as planned.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2707132,"authorDomain":"tlharmon123"}
What would happen IF the police kicked in a door and was met by a 12 g 00buck shot?? Bet the civilian would go to jail!
No, the civilian would go to the morgue, and the police would use the example to prove why they need to go in with guns blazin. Until we change their supervisors, we don't have any hope of seeing a change in police behavior.
We need to get a 3rd, 4th, whatever party going and start getting real patriots elected at the local level, they decide how the local police do their job. Then we work our way up the food chain until the "mainstream parties" are forced to change the way they do business.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":2707299,"authorDomain":"tlharmon123"}
Oh yeah, I'm standing behind my "is". nya, nya, nya.
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{"commentId":2703895,"authorDomain":"zdrakes"}
No wonder we can't do anything about police engaging in illegal search and seizure when half the posts on this are devoted to grammar. Police involved in this ain't no good, ain't never been any good and ain't ever gonna be any good. Cut their funding! They will probably still be thugs at least they won't be working on our dollars.
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- 1 vote
#8 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 6:31 PM EDT{"commentId":2704303,"authorDomain":"iarnuocon"}
Part of the problem is that much of law enforcement is now self-funded through "asset forfeiture," the crazy notion that your property can be charged with a crime, so that the state doesn't have to go to the pesky trouble of making a case against you. 'Cause everyone knows the Constitution doesn't give objects the right to a speedy and fair trial.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":2705191,"authorDomain":"zdrakes"}
The Sheriff of Nottingham was also self funded.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":2707186,"authorDomain":"tlharmon123"}
That's absolutely true, I know an officer in Phoenix who got to take home a nice shiny new Harley so he could "use it undercover".
Something has to change soon, I've tossed out my ideas. I'm open to any idea that has a chance in hell of working.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2718911,"authorDomain":"DrKnow"}
Cops used to have to also be the "guy next door". They had to live in the jurisdiction where they served. Now they live many miles away. It is not public service, it is just another job. When they were neighbors, they had a bit of social pressure to treat people better. Now their neighbors may not even know what they do for a living.
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- 4 votes
#9 - Wed Sep 3, 2008 12:21 PM EDT{"commentId":2741245,"authorDomain":"tlharmon123"}
Very good point.
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{"commentId":2803955,"authorDomain":"energynet"}
That pretty much says it... If you don't live with the folks you beat, how will ever know how they ever feel. Threats work but for how long.
The RNC cops were filming most of their acts. I'd like to see their version of their top ten hits were! If there was a Republican Channel for vipers, It would be replays. Do the replay where he hit that hippie b...h in the face again Joe!
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2759769,"authorDomain":"inghar2004"}
I thought y'all might also like to read a passage from Brave New World, which I happen to be re-reading now. It fits right in, I think, being very prescient:
Consider the matter dispassionately, Mr Foster, and you will see that no offense is so heinous as unorthodoxy of behaviour. Murder kills only the individual;and, after all, what is an individual? With a sweeping gesture he indicated the rows of microscopes, the test-tubes, the incubators. 'We can make a new one with the greatest ease--as many as we like. Unorthodoxy threatens more than the life of a mere individual; it strikes at Society itself.
I believe this is part of the GOP mission statement, and perhaps it may be found in the Democratic Party secret pages too. The police state is upon us, folks, can there be any doubt? If so, please advise cause I'd love to have some hope. Check out nearing's seed:here.
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- 1 vote
#10 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 3:44 PM EDT{"commentId":2803964,"authorDomain":"energynet"}
I just hope a lot more folks finally get up enough nerve to swallow that red pill!
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- 1 vote
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